Join host Travis Justice as he sits down with veteran NCAA Division I basketball official and coordinator John St. Clair at the annual NCAA officials meeting in Phoenix. St. Clair, with 32 years on the court, discusses his "survivor" mentality in a "cruel" and "not fair" business, emphasizing that getting plays right and being a great communicator are key. He unveils his fascinating "Two Minutes" concept: every game has two minutes of elevated emotion that must be expertly managed to avoid disaster and earn trust. As a coordinator for Division II and III leagues, he offers vital advice for aspiring officials on how to get noticed, the necessity of summer camps, and why knowing the rulebook and being a reliable teammate are the non-negotiable foundations for advancing your officiating career.